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Leif
03-14-2010, 12:57 PM
Here are some instructions on tying bucktail on jigs. I found basic instructions on the web, then added my details and simplified them. Hope this helps.

You don't need a vise for tying bucktail on jigs but if you have an interest in tying large streamers and saltwater teasers a quality vise will cost you about $85- 160.00 now. It should fit at least a size 3/0 hook and be able to rotate 360 degrees.

I use the Regal Rotary C-Clamp Vise
Rotary C-clamp vise offers 360° rotation for viewing flies at all angles.

In jig tying the buck tail hair around the jig head, do it in steps.

The first step is to get some nylon, or Kevlar thread. Here is what I use.

Gudebrod KevlarŪ Thread Assortment Item:IA-319139 or you can use rod building thread. "D" size is heavier and makes a good choice.
With respect to tying treads......8/0 is for tiny flies and 3/0 is for larger fly tying.

Wrap a few turns of the thread around the jig head where the bucktail will go, and cover this wrapping with clear Gorilla Glue or other super glue.

Take a pinch of hair(half the diameter of a pencil), lay it against the glue and wrap a few turns of the thread around it. Then add another drop or two of glue, lay another pinch of hair against it, and tie a few more turns of thread around the hair.

Keep doing this until you build up a thick body of hair around the hook, concealing most of it except the point and the barb. It is a good idea to make up several pinches of hair in advance.

When you have the full amount of bucktail hair wound on the jig head, finish the jig tying by wrapping the rest of the thread as tightly as possible over the jig. Then end it by tying a series of half-hitches.
Finally, cover the thread wrapping with a heavy coat of clear quick-drying cement.

The Sinker Man
03-14-2010, 08:45 PM
Leif,

You mean that you finally got around to tying those jigs?

sportfishingusa
03-14-2010, 10:38 PM
much easier to take several wraps on the body of the jig, take a clump of hair, put it on with about 2-3 good wraps, wet your fingers and rolls the hair around.. i would also not recommend glueing anything until the end.. if at all.

Leif
03-14-2010, 11:03 PM
much easier to take several wraps on the body of the jig, take a clump of hair, put it on with about 2-3 good wraps, wet your fingers and rolls the hair around.. i would also not recommend glueing anything until the end.. if at all.

You are full of s@&t. If don't you glue them they fall out. Obviously you have never tied or fished bucktails.


Leif

The Sinker Man
03-14-2010, 11:28 PM
Leif,
I think I'd take yours over the other guys...

RussH
03-15-2010, 12:29 AM
Leif,
I think I'd take yours over the other guys...


I'm with this guy. :D

billfish16
03-15-2010, 12:36 AM
I'm with this guy. :D


Me too!

Jigsmith
03-15-2010, 03:26 AM
Are you guys serious? I have tied many many bucktails and flies with no adhesive whatsoever and they are just fine. It's all how you tie I guess. I have been making my own bucktails and flies for a loooong time and the only ones that fall apart are those that get attacked from bluefish.

Tin Squid
03-15-2010, 04:40 AM
Are you guys serious? I have tied many many bucktails and flies with no adhesive whatsoever and they are just fine. It's all how you tie I guess. I have been making my own bucktails and flies for a loooong time and the only ones that fall apart are those that get attacked from bluefish.

I've been "tying" since age 14 and I advocate using adhesive (of various kinds) for all flies. Bucktail has a tendency to slip unless of course you have a huge amount of wraps with heavy thread. You can use adhesive and use a moderate amount of thread. If you want a very durable bucktail you would need a vast amount of wraps to insure the bucktail held firm for the "maximum amount of time". Bluefish do come into the equation quite frequently by the way. Epoxy works best with blues in my experience.

RussH
03-15-2010, 09:01 AM
I've never tied a bucktail in my life, however I do something that is VERY similar with thread and string to make tassels for very old alabaster fixtures we restore. And I always put down a layer of glue to make everything line up better. Just use a paint brush put it on and then do a few wraps. Same theory in my mind. When I've gotten lazy and done it without glue a good yank can unwind the whole thing.

Tony Cav
03-15-2010, 09:46 AM
Although I have the vise and all the gear needed, I sometimes use my workshop vise to quickly tie bucktail using heavier thread for simple teasers and jigs.

Of course I would not use this approach for wrapping a #16 Hendrickson Comparadun or Parachute Adams


From what I have seen Leif know his stuff. Why would anyone argue with that?

The Sinker Man
03-15-2010, 09:58 AM
I totally agree with your last statement !!!!!!!

sportfishingusa
03-15-2010, 10:29 AM
You are full of s@&t. If don't you glue them they fall out. Obviously you have never tied or fished bucktails.


Leif


i bet i have tied more, and probably longer then yourself and im probably 10 years younger.. i was making a statement and not busting on your way of doing things.. take the little stick out of yourself and relax... you DONT have to adhere them if you can tie a good bucktail.. you dont HAVE to even glue at all if you dont want to.. it SOMETIMES is easier to not glue so if you get all beat from different species you can just untie and tie again!

Your way is NOT THE ONLY WAY.. so keep working for the best of and take some criticism..

The Sinker Man
03-15-2010, 11:31 AM
From what I have read and heard from 99% of the guys on this site, some glue is better then none..I do not tie them , but IF I did I would want to make sure that they would stay together and not pull apart...But everyone is different and have different ways of doing things..If your way works for you then thats great, Leif has given some very good instructions on here on just about everything...and he is willing to share all his info...So lets not get into a BS match on here...

sportfishingusa
03-15-2010, 11:32 AM
From what I have read and heard from 99% of the guys on this site, some glue is better then none..I do not tie them , but IF I did I would want to make sure that they would stay together and not pull apart...But everyone is different and have different ways of doing things..If your way works for you then thats great, Leif has given some very good instructions on here on just about everything...and he is willing to share all his info...So lets not get into a BS match on here...


thanks for reading into my post correct Sam.. Your right.. 10000 ways to do the same thing.. I always GLUE at the end.. i just dont do it as i put clumps in because if it messes up your stuck and have to cut it all off and change.

Jigsmith
03-15-2010, 01:11 PM
I never said glue was bad or shouldn't be used. I was responding to the fact that leif jumped all over sportfishing for not using glue "at all" or "until the end". He didn't even say he didn't use it, just that he did it differently, and right away he doesn't know s%&t. I guess it's leif's way or no way at all. To me there are always more than one way to do something. Always. As for myself, I rarely use it as I find I don't lose hair before I lose the jig. Do whatever works for you.

Mai Tai Lure Co
03-16-2010, 03:17 AM
glue them!!!