New Jersey Summer Flounder Seasonal Quotas

[Broad Bill]

Does anyone know if the commercial quota for Season 4, July through August, has been filled. Come September 1st, let the carnage begin. The Season 5 quota which starts September 1 and goes through October 31st increases to 384,000 lbs. from 139,000 lbs. in Season 4 just in time to pound the stock when they begin to school up and start their offshore migration and spawn. Perfect timing to triple the commercial quota in NJ much less the impacts when you factor in what NC and Virginia boats will contribute to the onslaught. I know I'm a broken record on this but how does NJ and the federal government allow this crap. Season 1, January through February, and Season 5, September through October, by far are allocated the lion's share of the quota as the stock in January is concentrated offshore and easy pickings and in September and October they're concentrated in large migrating schools to their wintering grounds with the females loaded with eggs. Again easy pickings. It's an absolute disgrace how this fishery is being exploited and I'd add managed but I won't because it's not being managed it's being woefully abused.

[june181901]

I am a broken record as well but I'll say it again: They have lobbyists aka Political Action Committees that are financed, professional and well connected. We recreational anglers are unorganized and do not speak as one voice. Perhaps the manufacturers of fishing tackle could be persuaded to actively represent us. It certainly is in their best interest to do so.

[Gumada]

They claim the stocks are in trouble, so they triple the commercial quota during the spawn ? It’s so ridiculous there is no way it’s negligence, it’s on purpose. Just my 2 cents…

[hammer4reel]

I am a broken record as well but I'll say it again: They have lobbyists aka Political Action Committees that are financed, professional and well connected. We recreational anglers are unorganized and do not speak as one voice. Perhaps the manufacturers of fishing tackle could be persuaded to actively represent us. It certainly is in their best interest to do so.


All the tackle manufacturers pay into the ASA to do just that.
Millions of dollars are paid for the ASA to fight for fisherman’s rights .
IMO the ASA doesn’t represent us anywhere as much as they should .

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[Broad Bill]

All the tackle manufacturers pay into the ASA to do just that.
Millions of dollars are paid for the ASA to fight for fisherman’s rights .
IMO the ASA doesn’t represent us anywhere as much as they should .

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Dan amen to that brother! It's all bullshit. We spend a tremendous amount of money funding an organization which does little to represent the recreational angler's plight or fight for proper fisheries management for critical stocks supporting multiple businesses and recreational anglers of the Mid-Atlantic and New England Regions.

[Broad Bill]

Want to keep this in front of everyone for as long as possible. Here's 2023 seasonal commercial summer flounder quotas.

We have a stock which is now made up of a high percentage of shorts based on the existing regulations and a much lower percentage of older age groups as size minimums and selective harvest of larger fish by the commercial sector have caught up with the fishery.

All the 15" - 17.99" fish released this year are about to get annihilated by the commercial fleet over the next two months and then again between January and February at the ledge which is what led to the 43% reduction in their quotas this year. Discard waste will be enormous and Dan even though we disagree to what extent I think we agree in general it will be substantial. The further these schools get offshore, the more waste there will be for a number of reasons.

The only driving force that maintains a fishery, the spawn and successful recruitment numbers, is at risk every year as netters pound the stock without any understanding of the consequences. Last year, the September / October quota just for New Jersey was 610,000 lbs. of predominantly large egg laden female breeders. This year due to cuts, it's down to 383,000 lbs. but still substantial and possibly from a relative standpoint representative of a higher percentage harvest of the remaining older age groups. A fishery can't survive this year round pressure and what we'll see next year is a continued decline in the larger age groups and a higher proportion of sub legal fish as well as an absolute decline in those younger age classes accompanied with continued declines in recruitment.

If management of this stock doesn't wake up soon and address this one issue alone, the stock will become irrelevant and the long term economic impacts will far exceed the short term economic benefits decisions are being based on. Imagine what the sponsors on this site who depend on fluke throughout the summer months will do when the fishery is closed or not worth pursuing just like winter flounder. And where will commercial operators who depend on this resource turn when the stock has been irreversibly damaged and imagine the pressure those alternate stocks will then be under. I've been saying it for years, we're witnessing the disappearance of arguably the most important fishery to the Mid-Atlantic / New England regions and doing zero to change the trajectory of this stock which has been completely self inflicted based on ludicrous regulations over the last two decades.