Offshore wind projects shut down

[hammer4reel]

Some good news

https://patch.com/new-jersey/oceancity/state-officially-throws-out-ocean-wind-offshore-projects

[Gumada]

That’s only the one off Cape May…

[hammer4reel]

That’s only the one off Cape May…

Hopefully the rest meet the same demise

[bulletbob]

I dunno... Skinner took underwater vids of the ones off Block Island... Loaded with life all around them, even quite a distance from the supports.. Porgies, Sea Bass, Fluke, Stripers, Blackfish.. Impressive life...

The Gulf rec fishermen would freak if someone tried to remove the oil rigs...

Every video I have seen of guys fishing at the wind farms offshore have been pretty impressive.. I personally have no skin in the game, probably won't be salt water fishing any more, but those rigs would take a lot of heat off the other reef/rock areas in the NY Bight.. Any permanent structures in the ocean attract life in abundance, and within a few short years are teeming with fish... I guess I don't understand what the big problem is for most NJ anglers with the windmills,.. Not looking for arguments, just better understanding as to why no one wants them.... bob

[NoLimit]

The work leading up to it really hammered the whales so it’s a good development

Building more reefs is a lot cheaper for the taxpayer

[hammer4reel]

I dunno... Skinner took underwater vids of the ones off Block Island... Loaded with life all around them, even quite a distance from the supports.. Porgies, Sea Bass, Fluke, Stripers, Blackfish.. Impressive life...

The Gulf rec fishermen would freak if someone tried to remove the oil rigs...

Every video I have seen of guys fishing at the wind farms offshore have been pretty impressive.. I personally have no skin in the game, probably won't be salt water fishing any more, but those rigs would take a lot of heat off the other reef/rock areas in the NY Bight.. Any permanent structures in the ocean attract life in abundance, and within a few short years are teeming with fish... I guess I don't understand what the big problem is for most NJ anglers with the windmills,.. Not looking for arguments, just better understanding as to why no one wants them.... bob

Looking at the underwater video skinner took the first thing you should see is they aren’t going to last .
Ocean is a corrosive place .

None of the pilot projects made their full five year quota to establish a real timeline on their efficiency.most only operational for 2 years .

They wanted an area surrounding them for five years to be off limits .
They are ruining natural fishing areas that have been fished for centuries.

It’s by far the most undependable , and expensive way to create electricity .

Putting hundreds of them into an ocean that feeds many is no different than dumping trash.

They claim they are too expensive to maintain and repair .so once they stop operating it’s just a slab of garbage .


Currently your not even allowed by the EPA to blow sediment out if your slip . Yet they want to trench miles throughout the Barneget bay to route the cables through there .



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[frugalfisherman]

Slabs of garbage hold fish. What do you think reefs are?

[NJ219bands]

I dunno... Skinner took underwater vids of the ones off Block Island... Loaded with life all around them, even quite a distance from the supports.. Porgies, Sea Bass, Fluke, Stripers, Blackfish.. Impressive life...

The Gulf rec fishermen would freak if someone tried to remove the oil rigs...

Every video I have seen of guys fishing at the wind farms offshore have been pretty impressive.. I personally have no skin in the game, probably won't be salt water fishing any more, but those rigs would take a lot of heat off the other reef/rock areas in the NY Bight.. Any permanent structures in the ocean attract life in abundance, and within a few short years are teeming with fish... I guess I don't understand what the big problem is for most NJ anglers with the windmills,.. Not looking for arguments, just better understanding as to why no one wants them.... bob
They killed a lot of marine mammals already.

[hammer4reel]

Slabs of garbage hold fish. What do you think reefs are?

So give up five years of fishing the areas they want to build them . How many more you think you have left in you for possibly to have a chance at fishing them ?

When they start to fall in they will make them a secure zone to avoid the liability .

Want reefs , build them the right way

[bulletbob]

All I know is this- It was the commercial fishermen in New England that screamed the loudest about the structures being built. They knew there were going to be many square miles of bottom they could no longer rape with their nets...Now that they are up, recs have full access, commercials can't net the area, and there is a thriving fishery around those towers, and local sport fishermen are NOT complaining, they are out there tossing jigs, dropping bait, and catching a lot of fish around those structures. Only thing they can't do is tie up, which is perfectly acceptable.. Otherwise they can go right up to those things and fish them. I could be wrong, but I have not seen many reports of dead seagulls and terns floating all over the surface out there either.. bob

[hammer4reel]

All I know is this- It was the commercial fishermen in New England that screamed the loudest about the structures being built. They knew there were going to be many square miles of bottom they could no longer rape with their nets...Now that they are up, recs have full access, commercials can't net the area, and there is a thriving fishery around those towers, and local sport fishermen are NOT complaining, they are out there tossing jigs, dropping bait, and catching a lot of fish around those structures. Only thing they can't do is tie up, which is perfectly acceptable.. Otherwise they can go right up to those things and fish them. I could be wrong, but I have not seen many reports of dead seagulls and terns floating all over the surface out there either.. bob


They have very limited towers . That’s not what they are looking to build here .
These projects are 100 times larger .
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[bulletbob]

They have very limited towers . That’s not what they are looking to build here .
These projects are 100 times larger .
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Understood.. No argument either way, just playing "devils advocate".. I used to live in NJ-for 37 years- many of those years at the shore, and i might think differently if I still lived there.. Still, all that structure on bottom??... LOTS of life... Also, if the farms were as big as you said, imagine the pressure it would take off other productive bottom.. Fishing for bottom species would be off the charts in other places as well..


IF!, they let fishermen access the structures the way they do off Block Island I personally don't think its a bad thing..


If there are access restrictions, then like most guys on this forum, I would be dead set against...bob

[bunker dunker]

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[Foul Hook]

Some good news

https://patch.com/new-jersey/oceancity/state-officially-throws-out-ocean-wind-offshore-projects

Dan, We keep hearing its coming, and it will come. Maybe not immediately but within the next ten years they will be there, you can bet on it! I hope all is well buddy!