Just when crabbing was peaking

[hammer4reel]

Sewage break along Navasink

[Gerry Zagorski]

More on this https://patch.com/new-jersey/redbank/sewage-spill-breaks-out-nj-transit-parking-lot-red-bank

[Broad Bill]

Back to the earlier post, just one of the many reasons bunker are so critical filtering our waters against pollutants and situations described in this accident.

[Dawn Treader]

Despite the fact that Dig Safe mark outs are supposed to be done (was one done in this case?), there never seems to be a shortage of incompetent contractors with poor or non existent supervision at all levels that still manage to hit very large utilities.

[Wilson]

Despite the fact that Dig Safe mark outs are supposed to be done (was one done in this case?), there never seems to be a shortage of incompetent contractors with poor or non existent supervision at all levels that still manage to hit very large utilities.


It truly is amazing how many supply lines get broken considering all the "tech" available today.
Poor and non existent and just plain stupid operators sounds right.
Glad I'm older, the future looks less than stellar!

[Capt. Debbie]

That's pretty crappy news for us crabbers. LOL

[Broad Bill]

It's pretty bad news for homeowners, swimmers, the health of the waterway and surrounding bodies of water and all fish and crustaceans who habitate it. When dealing with sewage and major waterways, there's multiple levels of checks and balances to prevent an occurrence. How does an operator with all those safety checks drill into a main line.

[Duffman]

It truly is amazing how many supply lines get broken considering all the "tech" available today.
Poor and non existent and just plain stupid operators sounds right.
Glad I'm older, the future looks less than stellar!

Doesn’t matter how well it’s marked out and identified. Complacency in the job and the rush to get the job completed happens all the time.

If ya work in the construction industry or a utility ya see it everyday.

Amazing how stuff goes unreported ya never hear about!

[hammer4reel]

Doesn’t matter how well it’s marked out and identified. Complacency in the job and the rush to get the job completed happens all the time.

If ya work in the construction industry or a utility ya see it everyday.

Amazing how stuff goes unreported ya never hear about!

With today’s laws for mark out , much of that doesn’t happen as often .
But when they tell you something is a certain minimum depth meeting code . And guys hit stuff no where as deep as code requires someone should be held accountable . And that happens all the time because inspections aren’t done as well as they should be

[Wilson]

Doesn’t matter how well it’s marked out and identified. Complacency in the job and the rush to get the job completed happens all the time.

If ya work in the construction industry or a utility ya see it everyday.

Amazing how stuff goes unreported ya never hear about!

Time is money in any industry.
Taking short cuts, empowering incompetent people with important projects and than rushing them never ends well and costs more than doing it right the first time.
This particular accident effects the public at large not just a few.
Sadly taking pride in your work and being accountable are not a priority anymore.

[Broad Bill]

With today’s laws for mark out , much of that doesn’t happen as often .
But when they tell you something is a certain minimum depth meeting code . And guys hit stuff no where as deep as code requires someone should be held accountable . And that happens all the time because inspections aren’t done as well as they should be

Isn't there something in construction similar to stud or electric finders in home building where regardless of what depth a pipe in this case is supposed to be at they can scan an area with some type of thermal or electronic imagery to know exactly what depth critical underground structures are actually at versus where they're supposed to be? I would think with today's technology, something along those lines would not only be available but required before digging blindly.

[hammer4reel]

Isn't there something in construction similar to stud or electric finders in home building where regardless of what depth a pipe in this case is supposed to be at they can scan an area with some type of thermal or electronic imagery to know exactly what depth critical underground structures are actually at versus where they're supposed to be? I would think with today's technology, something along those lines would not only be available but required before digging blindly.

They mark out the lines , but don’t state the depth .
They mark thousands of runs a month , so for the most part it’s just the lane their service is in .

[Lard Almighty]

A lot of times a one-call markout will be performed based off drawings, not actually locating the line. Sometimes the drawings are several feet off. Even ground-penetrating radar isn't 100 percent, as the range can be limited based on soil type, and non-metal lines don't show up as well. Not to be an apologist, but you can be as careful and thorough as possible and still hit something.

I've overseen hundreds of excavating and drilling jobs, and no matter how many paint marks are on the ground I still get a little nervous when we break ground. You never know what you'll find until you start digging.

[NoLimit]

The heyday of flounder fishing in Quincy Bay was in the 70’s and each man would come home with 50 lbs of filets. And to the South side was a huge outlet pipe that dumped the raw sewage of Boston into the bay. When they started treating the water, the fishery died —— just saying.

[AndyS]

And no mention of all the CSO's we have. Combined Sewer Outflow, like the huge one in Perth Amboy.