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hammer4reel
04-01-2023, 06:27 AM
2 1/2 year joint study , a whole 150,000 (peanuts ).

IMO still raises a lot of questions to how bad the effects will be .
Would def like to see the whole 388 page report posted for public view .


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/report-feds-anglers-cites-offshore-185959576.html

AndrewT
04-01-2023, 09:06 AM
A $60,000/year study wouldn’t be sufficient for a duck pond.

frugalfisherman
04-01-2023, 11:06 AM
Google or Bing "block island offshore wind farm effect on fishing". Completed in 2018. There is a video of a party boat fishing near them and the observation of the captain as well as other articles and opinions. Why "study" what will happen if you build an offshore wind farm when you can open your eyes and see the result? I'll answer my own question. The NOAA people doing the studies that also create the ridiculous fishing regulations some of you guys follow would be out of a job and they don't want that.

Exit135
04-01-2023, 12:14 PM
This ship has proverbially sailed. If an injunction on the construction of wind farms or the re-examination of the federal and state data which was analyzed as part of the application and the eventual issuance of construction permits is to be considered, a law suit needs to filed. The person or organization filing the law suit had better have very deep pockets and alot of staying power. Other than that, you're whisting in the wind, unfortunately.

Broad Bill
04-01-2023, 02:57 PM
Google or Bing "block island offshore wind farm effect on fishing". Completed in 2018. There is a video of a party boat fishing near them and the observation of the captain as well as other articles and opinions. Why "study" what will happen if you build an offshore wind farm when you can open your eyes and see the result? I'll answer my own question. The NOAA people doing the studies that also create the ridiculous fishing regulations some of you guys follow would be out of a job and they don't want that.

In 2016, Rhode Island built the first OSWF which had five turbines capable of generating 30 megawatts of energy. The Block Island wind farm you're referring to was 3.8 miles off of Block Island. In 2019, another 400 MW wind farm to be created off of Martha's Vineyard known as the Revolution Wind Farm project was approved for construction. In 2020, Gina Raimondo, the former Governor of Rhode Island and now Secretary of Commerce, authorized another 600 megawatts of offshore wind farms to be developed. Block Island to my knowledge currently has 49.6 megawatts of capacity in the form of OSWF's or the equivalent of six turbines. New York and New Jersey alone, as mentioned in a previous post, are looking to create 20,000 MW's through OSWF's over the next decade and a half. Each turbine is capable of producing approximately 8 MW's of electricity which means between New York and New Jersey alone, in total they would have approximately 2,500 turbines. Comparing the impacts on fishing and the environment between Rhode Island with 6 turbines and the numbers planned to be built in the foreseeable future up and down the Eastern seaboard is no comparison at all. The sample sizes of your comparison aren't remotely comparable which means the potential consequences of your comparison aren't at all representative.

Just curious since you brought it up, what fishing regulations do you follow if not the official "ridiculous" regulations most everyone else does?

Broad Bill
04-01-2023, 03:00 PM
This ship has proverbially sailed. If an injunction on the construction of wind farms or the re-examination of the federal and state data which was analyzed as part of the application and the eventual issuance of construction permits is to be considered, a law suit needs to filed. The person or organization filing the law suit had better have very deep pockets and alot of staying power. Other than that, you're whisting in the wind, unfortunately.

Amen! And if anybody honestly believes a lawsuit filed against the federal government to ban the further development of offshore wind farms will be won doesn't understand the depths our own government will go to to insure that doesn't happen.

Duffman
04-01-2023, 04:54 PM
that also create the ridiculous fishing regulations some of you guys follow that.

Now that right there is GREAT. Well done Bruce. Well done. :D

hammer4reel
04-01-2023, 05:34 PM
Now that right there is GREAT. Well done Bruce. Well done. :D


Actually it’s because of guys like him we have rules in the first place

Broad Bill
04-01-2023, 05:50 PM
Actually it’s because of guys like him we have rules in the first place

Now that right there is GREAT! The recreational fishermen has for decades been getting the short end of the stick and very rarely does anyone feel the regulations are fairly arrived at and they'd be right. That being said, making your own rules when most choose to abide by the rules is not the right answer and is only going to hurt the entire sector more than benefit it in the long run.

frugalfisherman
04-01-2023, 06:35 PM
This might be the best troll I ever did!!!!!

shresearchdude
04-02-2023, 06:34 PM
for the report go to this link.


https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/49151

hammer4reel
04-02-2023, 07:10 PM
for the report go to this link.


https://repository.library.noaa.gov/view/noaa/49151

Thank you

frugalfisherman
04-02-2023, 07:21 PM
Wear a mask, don't touch your face, keep your kids out of school, shut down 1/2 the small businesses in the US, and the vaccine will definitely keep you from getting covid.

spc06
04-07-2023, 10:49 AM
A $60,000/year study wouldn’t be sufficient for a duck pond.

Incredibly sad and incredibly true.

Broad Bill
04-08-2023, 11:55 AM
2 1/2 year joint study , a whole 150,000 (peanuts ).

IMO still raises a lot of questions to how bad the effects will be .
Would def like to see the whole 388 page report posted for public view .


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/report-feds-anglers-cites-offshore-185959576.html

$150k for a two year study is window dressing. It's all about the appearance the feds did something to investigate the potential impacts of wind farm development. It's marketing to support the project more than the collection of scientific data to truly understand the impacts of that development.

And any studies conducted involving the federal government, even in a collaboration with the commercial sector, will end in one result and one result only. There is no credible evidence to suggest wind farm seismic testing, development or operations has any adverse effects on marine species or the environment, short term or long term.

As I've said before, take an MRI for a month straight with constant bombardment by soundwaves and a strong magnetic field and see what the impacts are. Maybe we can ask Governor Murphy and the investors and executives of Orsted to give it a shot and see how they fare.

NoLimit
04-09-2023, 08:43 PM
$150k for a two year study is window dressing. It's all about the appearance the feds did something to investigate the potential impacts of wind farm development. It's marketing to support the project more than the collection of scientific data to truly understand the impacts of that development.

And any studies conducted involving the federal government, even in a collaboration with the commercial sector, will end in one result and one result only. There is no credible evidence to suggest wind farm seismic testing, development or operations has any adverse effects on marine species or the environment, short term or long term.

As I've said before, take an MRI for a month straight with constant bombardment by soundwaves and a strong magnetic field and see what the impacts are. Maybe we can ask Governor Murphy and the investors and executives of Orsted to give it a shot and see how they fare.


Worth repeating....and keep in mind everyone knows what one impact is - the killing of hundreds of whales and porpoise