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Ry609
01-25-2023, 02:36 PM
How is it that this will be enforced?? Is each and every vessel above the size limit getting outfitted with some kind of tracking device to monitor speed? I don't understand how the gov't would have the resources to enforce this kind of thing efficiently. It all seems very conveniently timed with the industrialization of our ocean.

hammer4reel
01-25-2023, 05:16 PM
How is it that this will be enforced?? Is each and every vessel above the size limit getting outfitted with some kind of tracking device to monitor speed? I don't understand how the gov't would have the resources to enforce this kind of thing efficiently. It all seems very conveniently timed with the industrialization of our ocean.

More than likely they will require AIS to be installed and on at all times .
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Gerry Zagorski
01-25-2023, 07:09 PM
More than likely they will require AIS to be installed and on at all times .
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Yep likely to be AIS

Duffman
01-26-2023, 09:17 AM
Yep likely to be AIS

How would that work if you can switch it off?

hammer4reel
01-26-2023, 10:46 AM
How would that work if you can switch it off?

Currently commercial boats have to maintain them being on 24/7
Nothing says they won’t make the same requirement .

And if guys think it will end at 35’ it won’t .
No way they are going to let 28-35 foot boats do 60 next to bigger boats holding 10 mph .

They are coming for every boater a few foot at a time .
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Boaters are in the way of billion dollar projects , they want them gone

Capt. Debbie
01-26-2023, 03:01 PM
VHF radios are not even required on rec boats under 66 feet. AIS on rec boats when radios are not required is a BIG stretch on speculation. Not that it cant happen. VERY UNLIKELY.

And truth be told most vessels offshore are rec boaters. A big of hysteria might be contagious. Not like making us use circle hooks to fish right? How do they enforce that your using the right hook?

Possible. But likely voluntary if ever.


Currently commercial boats have to maintain them being on 24/7
Nothing says they won’t make the same requirement .

And if guys think it will end at 35’ it won’t .
No way they are going to let 28-35 foot boats do 60 next to bigger boats holding 10 mph .

They are coming for every boater a few foot at a time .
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Boaters are in the way of billion dollar projects , they want them gone

Duffman
01-26-2023, 04:48 PM
Currently commercial boats have to maintain them being on 24/7


Do they do it tho?

capt74
01-26-2023, 07:52 PM
For hire boats over 66 feet must have 2 AIS. An A and one tied into your VHF radio also known as a B.

bulletbob
01-27-2023, 06:36 AM
Just another way for BIG BROTHER to know where you are, what you are doing, at all times... You and I are constantly under surveillance. Cell phone, your car, your computer, your "smart"TV,, everything... Now your boat as well.

Capt. Debbie
01-28-2023, 09:12 PM
Maybe I'm naive but... is there a single person on this site that has an AIS transmitter ( not recieve AIS) even on their boat?

My guess is probably zero or really close to zero.

AIS transmitters are expensive ($600+) and require its own antenna.


For hire boats over 66 feet must have 2 AIS. An A and one tied into your VHF radio also known as a B.

NoLimit
01-29-2023, 01:32 AM
Never had one and never will. And I will register the boat for 2' less than it is.

hammer4reel
01-29-2023, 05:38 AM
Maybe I'm naive but... is there a single person on this site that has an AIS transmitter ( not recieve AIS) even on their boat?

My guess is probably zero or really close to zero.

AIS transmitters are expensive ($600+) and require its own antenna.

A bigger stretch is you thinking the government gives a rats ass that a boater needs to buy that equipment .

Besides the fact , if you’re running a boat above 35’ , 600 bucks is pocket change .
alternative is they man speed boats to target offenders , so much easier for them to man a computer and just watch the dots .
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Capt. Debbie
02-01-2023, 11:49 PM
Even if AIS transmitters cost $6 w/ free installations boaters would not buy it. It's useless gear. It burns your spots too. And helps you catch absolutely nothing. I dare say most rec guys are NOT running 35 footers or bigger.

Everyone is hysterical about this.

Think about this. The Government is going to have 1000's of G- boats w/ radar guns offshore to find whales to create safety zones everywhere they can be found (if they can even be found at all). Seriously?

I'm not sure why this is not a rediculous worry. Anything is possible including surgically embedding AIS transmitters and batteries in the whales' heads. Or 24x7 AWAC planes running up and down the coast to monitor every boat in the Atlantic lol

Agreed this regulation is bullshit because larger boats/ships can do whatever they want. Tree huggers take delight.



A bigger stretch is you thinking the government gives a rats ass that a boater needs to buy that equipment .

Besides the fact , if you’re running a boat above 35’ , 600 bucks is pocket change .
alternative is they man speed boats to target offenders , so much easier for them to man a computer and just watch the dots .
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