NJ Considering Massive Flood Gates at 3 Major Inlets

[Gerry Zagorski]

Looks like the inlets being considered under the proposal are Manasquan, Barnegat and Great Egg Harbor Inlets.

More detail here https://njbiz.com/nj-feds-would-spend-16b-for-massive-floodgates-home-elevation-on-shore/

[dakota560]

Looks like the inlets being considered under the proposal are Manasquan, Barnegat and Great Egg Harbor Inlets.

More detail here https://njbiz.com/nj-feds-would-spend-16b-for-massive-floodgates-home-elevation-on-shore/

They don't currently have the funding means one way or another average Joe taxpayer will pick up the tab. What about every other major inlet or Bay like Sandy Hook, what do they get? What about Shark River? Parts of Keyport and Keansburg will never be rebuilt.

Sounds a bit like the fight for public access at Greenwood Lake. Residents want state and federal funds to maintain the lake but the public to have no access.

You buy beachfront and or bay front property and deny the general public access, don't expect them to front the tab to protect those properties when storms like Sandy hit. Or let the insurance industry that jacks everyone's premiums pay for the safeguards since they'll ultimately be the biggest benefactor of any preemptive measures.

How does a gate at the Manasquan offset the impacts when there's a breach at Mantoloking / Bayhead that essentially created another inlet. Why not address the cause of carbon emissions and global warming as opposed to spending billions for a bandaid approach to a handful of areas driven no doubt by lobbyists for the insurance industry. Lot of homes inland had extreme damage from Sandy caused by fallen trees, floods and or electrical fires. Where's their $16 billion precautionary legislation?

You buy a house or mansion on waterfront, you get the benefits and you assume the risks. How about stopping the development and we wouldn't have to worry about the extent of damage in these areas you know is going to continue with or without floating gates.

[NoLimit]

What Global Warming? There are decades long cycles since the beginning of time and it’s tied to solar activity and not anything on this planet. We are now in a solar minimum and the world is cooling. https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/earth-to-get-colder-will-be-mini-ice-age-for-30-years-as-sun-hits-solar-minimum-report/549473

[Gerry Zagorski]

They don't currently have the funding means one way or another average Joe taxpayer will pick up the tab. What about every other major inlet or Bay like Sandy Hook, what do they get? What about Shark River? Parts of Keyport and Keansburg will never be rebuilt.

Sounds a bit like the fight for public access at Greenwood Lake. Residents want state and federal funds to maintain the lake but the public to have no access.

You buy beachfront and or bay front property and deny the general public access, don't expect them to front the tab to protect those properties when storms like Sandy hit. Or let the insurance industry that jacks everyone's premiums pay for the safeguards since they'll ultimately be the biggest benefactor of any preemptive measures.

How does a gate at the Manasquan offset the impacts when there's a breach at Mantoloking / Bayhead that essentially created another inlet. Why not address the cause of carbon emissions and global warming as opposed to spending billions for a bandaid approach to a handful of areas driven no doubt by lobbyists for the insurance industry. Lot of homes inland had extreme damage from Sandy caused by fallen trees, floods and or electrical fires. Where's their $16 billion precautionary legislation?

You buy a house or mansion on waterfront, you get the benefits and you assume the risks. How about stopping the development and we wouldn't have to worry about the extent of damage in these areas you know is going to continue with or without floating gates.

Would be some undertaking to put a flood gate across Sandy Hook to NY... As far as Raritan Bay, shortly after Sandy they spent on ton of money in the Belford and Port Monmouth areas with all sorts elaborate flood walls and gates, it looks like a prison.

[Foul Hook]

Lol. Total BS. Jersey shoreline has been receding for a hundred years. How do you stop it?

[Detour66]

As far as Raritan Bay, shortly after Sandy they spent on ton of money in the Belford and Port Monmouth areas with all sorts elaborate flood walls and gates, it looks like a prison.
I drive through that prison like wall and gate every time I go to my marina. I would hate to get stuck inside of it with my car once they decide its time to close it!

[dakota560]

Would be some undertaking to put a flood gate across Sandy Hook to NY... As far as Raritan Bay, shortly after Sandy they spent on ton of money in the Belford and Port Monmouth areas with all sorts elaborate flood walls and gates, it looks like a prison.

Lol, wasn't suggesting they do. My point was their solution is selective and doesn't address many areas that will be hit hard when another Sandy hits. The problem is over development in areas where nature is going to wreak havoc at some point. Their 16 billion solution is the proverbial finger in the dam approach and addresses a small population of the state.

You want to protect homes on shore or bay front property. Build them on stilts and don't build them in areas you know will be hit hard with wind or storm surge.

If you do, your decision, your problem. The general population shouldn't foot that bill, especially when most of these areas are no longer accessible any longer to the general public. Someone wants exclusivity, well like everything else in life it comes with a price tag which the parties benefitting from such a project should foot.

[Gerry Zagorski]

Lol. Total BS. Jersey shoreline has been receding for a hundred years. How do you stop it?

I dunno Tony, just thought people should be aware of what they're suggesting..

[dakota560]

What Global Warming? There are decades long cycles since the beginning of time and it’s tied to solar activity and not anything on this planet. We are now in a solar minimum and the world is cooling. https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/earth-to-get-colder-will-be-mini-ice-age-for-30-years-as-sun-hits-solar-minimum-report/549473

Well if the world is cooling, from a relative standpoint it must have been warming beforehand. Glaciers from the ice age aren't melting from global cooling. There are cycles, I'll agree with you there but I think there's enough scientific evidence that shows this is more than a decade long cycle and the more populated this planet gets the more pressure were putting on Mother Nature. I think there's plenty happening on this planet impacting global weather patterns in addition to the impacts of more natural cycles.

[Gumada]

Another money grab...who gets the contracts, how much is the kick back. If money doesn’t move you can’t skim....

[AndyS]

LOL :D

[june181901]

Both London and Venice have done this. Hope they check their results. Do you think we can talk some politicians into a two week trip to those places at NJ taxpayer expense?

[dales529]

Well if the world is cooling, from a relative standpoint it must have been warming beforehand. Glaciers from the ice age aren't melting from global cooling. There are cycles, I'll agree with you there but I think there's enough scientific evidence that shows this is more than a decade long cycle and the more populated this planet gets the more pressure were putting on Mother Nature. I think there's plenty happening on this planet impacting global weather patterns in addition to the impacts of more natural cycles.

Exactly some stuff you cant just deny or turn away from for political reasons. Glaciers disappearing at this fast a rate is certainly new and undeniable