Party Boat Shutdown

[Billfish715]

Please Gov. Murphy, don't shut down the party boat fishing industry! With the current state of affairs involving social gatherings and shut downs and social distancing, the horrible thought of groups of fishermen confined along the rails of a party boat came to mind.

Although, there might be a technicality because it is a "take out" business and it is a mobile fish market which is like a food store. Let's just hope it doesn't get to that. Fish slime, Gulp and Clam juice all are virus protection agents so, no worry about contracting the virus.

[WhaleFart]

They are locking down cities, people are getting very sick, this isn’t a joke, party boat fishing should be sidelined...confined, on a boat, for hours with many fisherman of age of high risk. I hope the gov does something to help any business down and out during this crazy times in the word.

[Billfish715]

If the party boats are not currently shut down, I doubt there will be any further restrictions unless they are self-imposed by fishermen. Support your favorite captains by fishing with them. Still it's a sorry mess. Let's hope things are back to some kind of normalcy soon and pray that the governor doesn't go any farther than he already has.

[bowhunter]

Ocean explorer posted yesterday that they were sailing today. Paramount is going Saturday AND Sunday. Dauntless is undaunted by this crisis and is sailing daily.I'll be on one of them this week.

[Flygaff]

This pandemic is nothing to mess with. STAY AWAY FROM OTHERS as much as possible. If your over 50 and get this, the death rate goes up to near 20%. Go surf fishing and stay away from others. Everyone stay safe and listen to the World Health Organization.

[Gobigblue]

This has nothing to do with someone's business this has to do with the safety of our population. The last place you should be is crammed into a cabin of a party boat. That is the total opposite of social distancing. I feel bad for these captains and boat owners and mates. However these captains should not be lighting up in the morning.

[dakota560]

The economic impact of this is going to impact everyone. This isn't about any particular business, it's about safety for a virus we don't yet fully understand. Don't let today's over reaction become tomorrow's unfortunate under reaction. This is one scenario where the phrase "err on the side of caution" is sound advise. If anyone believes a day of fishing is worth the risk you potentially pose to others if you're infected and don't realize it or the risk you pose to yourself, your family and anyone else you come in contact with if you are infected on a trip, you need to be the judge of that. Just remember one attorney in NY can be linked to infecting more than 60 people and was directly responsible for shutting down and quarantining an entire community.

[wyldbillnj]

I have to agree with this speaking about being in a cabin in close quarters or close proximity. I would say sail at your own risk...BUT think..>REALLY THINK and take to heart..... your loved ones and people you are in close contact with AT HOME!!! Its a shame...yes but you have to consider your family and friends. Don't put them and everyone else at risk.

[frugalfisherman]

If you've got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel you might die from this cold panic but then again you're pretty close to death anyway so you might as well get a few fishing trips in before the Grim Reaper visits or the shutdown nuts completely collapse the economy.

[Adrenalinerush]

If the party boats are not currently shut down, I doubt there will be any further restrictions unless they are self-imposed by fishermen. Support your favorite captains by fishing with them. Still it's a sorry mess. Let's hope things are back to some kind of normalcy soon and pray that the governor doesn't go any farther than he already has.


So you are recommending the very action that medical professionals are telling us to avoid? Sorry, but this is simply irresponsible.

[Gobigblue]

If you've got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel you might die from this cold panic but then again you're pretty close to death anyway so you might as well get a few fishing trips in before the Grim Reaper visits or the shutdown nuts completely collapse the economy.

That logic is very flawed because you are not the only one getting infected. You are going to bring home that virus and infect anyone you come in contact with, whether you have symptoms or not. If it was just you, I'd say knock your socks off and go, but that is just not the case with this virus

[Flyguy]

Unfortunately I don't think people will care and its gonna be a zoo out there soon as the stripers start showing up. Boat traffic prob be worse then ever with as many people out of work and nothing better to do. Only way this doesnt happen is if the marinas are forced to shut down and boat ramps closed.

[RescueDogger]

Only way this doesnt happen is if the marinas are forced to shut down and boat ramps closed.

Now that's fighting dirty. I pray it doesn't go that far.

[wyldbillnj]

I think going out on your own boat with a friend...likely isn't soo bad. You are "technically" still isolated if alone on your boat. Just dont sneeze on Pete when you stop in the store there. My opinion is that is still safer than being on a larger boat where you don't know anyone else AND...probably safer than going out and hunting down TP for the #2 at a store.

[AndyS]

I love the whole "social distancing" thing. The beaches in Florida are packed, where I work the store is crowded.

[Skolmann]

Unfortunately I don't think people will care and its gonna be a zoo out there soon as the stripers start showing up. Boat traffic prob be worse then ever with as many people out of work and nothing better to do. Only way this doesnt happen is if the marinas are forced to shut down and boat ramps closed.

Boat ramps ordered closed in South Florida

[rumster]

If you've got one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel you might die from this cold panic but then again you're pretty close to death anyway so you might as well get a few fishing trips in before the Grim Reaper visits or the shutdown nuts completely collapse the economy.
With all due respect, your post is lacking any common sense... Please use your head and do not promote reckless behavior.... The lives you save may be that of your own family.. Peace

[Billfish3]

I have supported party boat captains for fifty years and have enormous respect for them. I feel for them and for others where livelihoods are at stake due to the pandemic. I am also a healthcare professional. My wife called me today to ask me to please come home because her friend's cousin, age 57, in previously good health, just died from Corona Virus at one of the finest hospitals in NYC 6 days after developing symptoms. I am grateful that I am not supposed to be going back to the office until next Tuesday because I worry about infecting my own son who is immunologically compromised. My brother in Fla, a critical care doc, was asked to fly to CA immediately to help out, while my other brother, an ER doc at a well known hospital in Bklyn has been fielding non stop questions for the department of health for the past three days. I will not mention some of the alarming details he has shared with me. Please be safe and keep the faith.

Bill

[NoLimit]

With little due respect to the worry warts here, there are 20,000 people that die of flu every year and in some years like with Swine flu, it was 10 times that.

In NJ, we have 4 dead and they were all friends/family, with other conditions and by the time it is over, we will probably have 400-500 dead in the entire country

Yes, this virus does hit some people hard especially the elderly with pre existing conditions. However if we were to shut down the country for every special group of 400-500 that died, we are never going to survive as a country.

By the way with Swine flu, we had 1000 dead before a national emergency was declared and nothing was shut down except for one flight of Chinese trying to get back into China. What changed?!!?

[frugalfisherman]

With little due respect to the worry warts here, there are 20,000 people that die of flu every year and in some years like with Swine flu, it was 10 times that.

In NJ, we have 4 dead and they were all friends/family, with other conditions and by the time it is over, we will probably have 400-500 dead in the entire country

Yes, this virus does hit some people hard especially the elderly with pre existing conditions. However if we were to shut down the country for every special group of 400-500 that died, we are never going to survive as a country.

By the way with Swine flu, we had 1000 dead before a national emergency was declared and nothing was shut down except for one flight of Chinese trying to get back into China. What changed?!!?

Thank God there are still some people who see this for what it really is.

[Adrenalinerush]

With little due respect to the worry warts here, there are 20,000 people that die of flu every year and in some years like with Swine flu, it was 10 times that.

In NJ, we have 4 dead and they were all friends/family, with other conditions and by the time it is over, we will probably have 400-500 dead in the entire country

Yes, this virus does hit some people hard especially the elderly with pre existing conditions. However if we were to shut down the country for every special group of 400-500 that died, we are never going to survive as a country.

By the way with Swine flu, we had 1000 dead before a national emergency was declared and nothing was shut down except for one flight of Chinese trying to get back into China. What changed?!!?


I’m sorry but your facts are simply flawed. There are 4 dead in Nj from the same family and they had little or no underlying health conditions. Obviously people with compromised immune systems are more likely to suffer complications. However, otherwise healthy people are dying as well, that’s a fact. Further, the reason more people died from the flu is because to date more people have had it verse covid virus. But the covid virus carries a higher mortality rate and there are no vaccines or anti virals currently while there are for the flu.

I could go on but you are obviously part of the problem and convincing ignorant people like you is impossible. This is evidenced by the first line of your response
“With little due respect”.

By the way genius, there are 9 dead state wide and almost a thousand cases and that number is increasing radically everyday. There is finally testing and now you will see that number dramatically increase. There are now almost 200 dead nationally so we are almost half way to your WAG of 400-500 for the entire country. It will more likely be 5 to 10 times that number unfortunately.

Additionally, 40% of the patients who have required hospitalization are between the ages of 20-54, so this is not only something that is affecting elderly people.

Finally, it’s reckless behavior by ignorant people like you who are putting the general population and more specifically our health care professionals at greater risk.

[ytuna]

Her Facebook Friends Asked If Anyone Was Actually Sick. She Had an Answer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/coronavirus-heaven-frilot-mark-frilot.html

The experience of a Louisiana Republican family!

[Honghui]

Her Facebook Friends Asked If Anyone Was Actually Sick. She Had an Answer.

https://www.nytimes.com/…/coronavirus-heaven-frilot-mark-fr…

The experience of a Louisiana Republican family!

your link is broken, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/coronavirus-heaven-frilot-mark-frilot.html

[Adrenalinerush]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/us/politics/coronavirus-heaven-frilot-mark-frilot.amp.html

[ytuna]

Thanks. Fixed the link.

[frugalfisherman]

How many lives will be lost to suicide do to lost businesses and jobs but then again how many less traffic deaths because not as many cars will be on the road? This could get complicated.

[wyldbillnj]

I’m sorry but your facts are simply flawed. There are 4 dead in Nj from the same family and they had little or no underlying health conditions. Obviously people with compromised immune systems are more likely to suffer complications. However, otherwise healthy people are dying as well, that’s a fact. Further, the reason more people died from the flu is because to date more people have had it verse covid virus. But the covid virus carries a higher mortality rate and there are no vaccines or anti virals currently while there are for the flu.

I could go on but you are obviously part of the problem and convincing ignorant people like you is impossible. This is evidenced by the first line of your response
“With little due respect”.

By the way genius, there are 9 dead state wide and almost a thousand cases and that number is increasing radically everyday. There is finally testing and now you will see that number dramatically increase. There are now almost 200 dead nationally so we are almost half way to your WAG of 400-500 for the entire country. It will more likely be 5 to 10 times that number unfortunately.

Additionally, 40% of the patients who have required hospitalization are between the ages of 20-54, so this is not only something that is affecting elderly people.

Finally, it’s reckless behavior by ignorant people like you who are putting the general population and more specifically our health care professionals at greater risk.

Thank you. This shows there are people with common sense here in the state still.

[Capt Joe]

Meme sums it up.
“ That’s odd: My Facebook friends who were constitutional scholars
Just a month ago are now infectious disease experts....”
:D

[Billfish3]

My nurse has been out sick for several days and has been having problems getting tested. Our residence manager has been out since Sunday and his test is supposed to come back today. We have residents with Down Syndrome who are on Quarantine now along with staff who are doing their best to keep them safe.

Just heard from my brother who intubated an 18 year old today with no previous medical issues. Too bad some people still think it's a joke.

[Flygaff]

Everyone needs to take this very serious. This is the largest global disaster since WW2. It has the potential to kill as many or more. I believe the only way to get ahead of this thing is thru isolation. If the public will not cooperate we could possibly face Marshal Law to get this under control. It is not the flu

[ytuna]

This is an incredible challenge. For a variety of reasons some folks are very skeptical of the dangers posed by this disease. There skepticism may result in behavior that is not in their or anyones best interest. Nevertheless attacking those perceptions may only tend to harden their views.

We really need to keep our discussions civil and respectful of everyones views if we are to get through this. Disagreements need to be responded to with kindness and facts.

We all need to carefully consider the information sources we choose to believe and to pay attention to the biases inherent in any information source.

I wish I could suggest an information source that is beyond reproach, unfortunately I don't know any we would all agree on.

Hopefully we will all make the best decisions we can.

[torchee]

150 workers at Hackensack home quarantined.

All in the last 10 days. Imagine if every doctor/nurse gets sick.

on the news today 1010
and confirmed by relative who works there

some are older doctors....

[bigfishy]

This is an incredible challenge. For a variety of reasons some folks are very skeptical of the dangers posed by this disease. There skepticism may result in behavior that is not in their or anyones best interest. Nevertheless attacking those perceptions may only tend to harden their views.

We really need to keep our discussions civil and respectful of everyones views if we are to get through this. Disagreements need to be responded to with kindness and facts.

We all need to carefully consider the information sources we choose to believe and to pay attention to the biases inherent in any information source.

I wish I could suggest an information source that is beyond reproach, unfortunately I don't know any we would all agree on.

Hopefully we will all make the best decisions we can.

Well said!!!🤫

[blindalfred]

This is turning into another climate change thread. Science versus "common sense". Aren't there any poker players among the common sense crowd? Do you always draw to an inside straight? Look at the numbers and the risk versus reward. Play it according to Hoyle.

[Gerry Zagorski]

I have to agree with a lot that's been said above..

A lot of people with varying reactions based on their own opinions and personal situations.. No right or wrong here and no need to bicker, spread false rumors or force your personal feelings on someone else. I'm guilty too.

Calmer heads prevail in a crisis and we all cope with this it in our own personal ways and come out better in the end if we all respect and support each other.

Closing this thread since it's getting hot in here.

See you all on the other side....