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reason162
07-31-2019, 12:33 PM
Bring on climate change I say...what a delicious fish!

Video: https://youtu.be/0a8ZTau4rT8

https://i.imgur.com/pCb83iM.jpg

Anthony
07-31-2019, 01:53 PM
Bring on climate change I say...what a delicious fish!

Video: https://youtu.be/0a8ZTau4rT8

https://i.imgur.com/pCb83iM.jpg

nice!!

reason162
07-31-2019, 02:09 PM
Lol I don't name spots for a reason...but thanks!

Anthony
07-31-2019, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=reason162;535002]Lol I don't name spots for a reason...but thanks![/QUOT

fixed it..lol

reason162
07-31-2019, 02:57 PM
[QUOTE=reason162;535002]Lol I don't name spots for a reason...but thanks![/QUOT

fixed it..lol

Haha thank you! I know anyone who's fished that spot would recognize it...but as a rule, only naming the spot will bring fresh blood to an already-crowded location.

All I need is another spear bro swimming past me on that jetty lol.

Reel Class
07-31-2019, 04:01 PM
Not sure spanish mack's presence has anything to do with climate change lol -- they've been around on and off over the summer for as long as I can remember and I've been fishing down here for almost 40 years. When I was younger, in around 83-85', we saw CERO mackerel on and off up here as well as the stray king and lots of spaniards. It's a very good year for the spanish macks and bonito, as they are in a "boom" cycle and it should be like this the next couple of years. We've seen this before, but it's been quite a while since they have been around in these numbers.

Speaking of climate change... Red Drum, aka channel bass, aka redfish as they are known to our south, were a huge summer target up here >100 years ago, and they have since left the area and have stayed to the south. Yes, we see the up here occasionally, but they are not as common as they once were. Kinda like bluefish too - generations in the late 1800's NEVER saw them around here and when they returned, people were baffled by their presence and what they were (sounds familiar with our current bluefish migratory patterns!!). You can look up both - these are facts!

Also, the northern florida gulf coast has been inundated with our black seabass the last several years, and many guys are now targeting them down there along with margates and smaller snappers on the inshore stuff. Truth!

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I believe very strongly that most of our species that migrate into our area, which is almost all of them that we target, are extremely cyclical, and their migratory patterns change dramatically with these "cycles". Whiting, ling, blowfish, weakfish, bluefish, pelagics, mini tunas, and to a lesser extent winter flounder and fluke experience these ups and downs. Blackfish are much less affected, IMO, because they are so slow growing and really don't migrate that far, whereas codfish migrations as well as stripers depend on where the bait is.

Also, who can explain the croaker invasion from 1998-2005 or so along our beaches, only to have them disappear and never show up again?

With fish such as cod and stripers, you can't say "I caught 60 keepers here in 1993 so they should be here now" kinda thing -- these fish have fins, and they move. Ya gotta go where they are! Look at the cod populations OFFSHORE up north, they are there because the bait is there!!

Sorry for the "rant" - this is just my $.02 but I would like to think I have some credibility in this realm ;)

reason162
07-31-2019, 04:20 PM
Not sure spanish mack's presence has anything to do with climate change

Haha it was a sort of a cheeky post considering the recent dialogue on this forum...but I take your point and appreciate your post.

Whatever the cycles are for these various fish, I doubt that any of them aren't affected by rising water temps. Exactly how each species interact with warming trends is probably very difficult to model...but to imagine that migratory patterns and behavior has "nothing" to do with climate change is quite a remarkable statement.

bulletbob
07-31-2019, 04:39 PM
Haha it was a sort of a cheeky post considering the recent dialogue on this forum...but I take your point and appreciate your post.

Whatever the cycles are for these various fish, I doubt that any of them aren't affected by rising water temps. Exactly how each species interact with warming trends is probably very difficult to model...but to imagine that migratory patterns and behavior has "nothing" to do with climate change is quite a remarkable statement.

Sorry, Its not a remarkable statement.. its just a fact.. Ocean water temps are the same this year as they are any other year at this time... .. Same thing mid winter every year.. temps usually around 39 degrees or so in February, as its been since i was a kid... Same migratory fish are here every year, some years more or less abundance than other years.. A few short weeks ago in late June right on these pages, guys were beside themselves because there were no Fluke anywhere... At the same time guys were catching Whiting in 60 feet of water.. Whiting love cold water.. Can't have it both ways too cold, then too warm... Late june the water was cold, it warmed up, now the visitors from down south that are here every summer in varying numbers.. Same as it ever was.

When any species of migratory fish is at a high level of abundance their range always increases.. As was said earlier, the Spanish macs, Bonito, Scads, are here in force this year because there are a lot of them.. When they cycle down, there won't be as many... Always been that way... bob

hartattack
07-31-2019, 05:06 PM
Great stuff Roger. . . gonna have to get one of those Butane Flames :eek:

reason162
07-31-2019, 05:40 PM
Sorry, Its not a remarkable statement.. its just a fact.. Ocean water temps are the same this year as they are any other year at this time...

Lol okay bob...I could post up charts and graphs and mountains of evidence showing what is pretty much universal agreement among climate scientists that warming is a fact...but what's the point?

Last time we went down this road you started talking about chem trails :)

reason162
07-31-2019, 05:41 PM
Great stuff Roger. . . gonna have to get one of those Butane Flames :eek:

Thanks Larry!

That torch is abused and overused in the foodie world...but for niche applications it works great!

OH HENRY II
07-31-2019, 06:39 PM
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Capt Joe
07-31-2019, 07:42 PM
Lol okay bob...I could post up charts and graphs and mountains of evidence showing what is pretty much universal agreement



Now that’s funny right there!