Boat on the hook

[Artie Lange]

Saw this sport fisher beaches on the hook Saturday anyone know the story

[Capt. Debbie]

Was there Sunday and heard nothing. Is this around the #11 where the charts are off by more than 100 feet.

Would make sense with a moon tide this weekend they'd be that high and dry.

[pcheesesteak]

Pics from Saturday. The channel is rather well marked in this vicinity.

[Capt. Debbie]

Curious. What part of the Hook is this?

Boat US dragging it that far to the water would likely tear the struts, rudder and prop out dragging it across the sand. A heavy boat. It would start sinking the second it was refloated.

Any more info?

A real tedious salvage due to inboard propulsion system is brittle and would all snap off.




Pics from Saturday. The channel is rather well marked in this vicinity.

[Fortunate Son]

Oh chit, that ain't good. Really want to know what happened there!

[pcheesesteak]

Tow Boat US was there when I got there, but they left after awhile, leaving the grounded boat there.

They made no attempt to pull the boat off while I was there. Strange also, there were a bunch of people on the back platform of the tow boat dangling their legs in the water. Struck me as odd...

I too left the area before high tide, which is when I assumed they would attempt to get it off the beach.

Sorry, no more info.

[Capt. Debbie]

Curious... where exactly on the hook is this boat?




Tow Boat US was there when I got there, but they left after awhile, leaving the grounded boat there.

They made no attempt to pull the boat off while I was there. Strange also, there were a bunch of people on the back platform of the tow boat dangling their legs in the water. Struck me as odd...

I too left the area before high tide, which is when I assumed they would attempt to get it off the beach.

Sorry, no more info.

[pcheesesteak]

See attached map...

[Capt. Debbie]

EXACTLY where I thought. Inside SH #11. The charts are TOTALL WRONG THERE.

The plotter & charts shows about 500 feet from #11 to shore. At high tide its covered an and at low tide its only about 150 feet (NOT 500') from the #11.

Five years ago the USCG "was" concerned worried enough about that error to put add an 11A buoy inside the existing #11 buoy to show how inaccurate the charts were

That part of the Hook is growing each year. Those flats where this boat is (based on the pin point) disappears under water on a moon tide but only has about 1-1.5 feet of water cover.




See attached map...

[pcheesesteak]

Not to argue, but according to my Navionics map, it shows 150', not 500. See picture.

Again, I don't know the circumstances of this boat's particular grounding.

[Capt. Debbie]

No doubt you're right. The older plotters(3 years old or so do not show that green tidal basin. Only the yellow beach. And that face of the hook gets deep fast.

That's why the short lived 11A buoy was put in for that shoal.

The NOAA charts show several hundred more feet of usable water. We've done dozens of night time ungrounding there for this exact reason.


I'll betcha A LOT of money that's why this guy ran aground. Likely at night. Likely at high new moon tide too. And I'll bet you he was in shallow water when it was stuck too.

Moral of the story you can NOT cut the SH 11 can. Especially at night :)




Not to argue, but according to my Navionics map, it shows 150', not 500. See picture.

Again, I don't know the circumstances of this boat's particular grounding.

[Capt. Lou]

It’s a mute point now , if running at night I would be using my radar for sure !
Set to 1/4 - 1/8 mile and would keep you off the sand especially if your runnin
at or near cruise !

[Capt. Debbie]

Wrong. Radar would not see it except low tide. The trap is at high tide


It's got water cover over it at high tide. You'd run out of water long before land shows on radar. The SH #11 is a VERY important buoy and ignore most plotter info there.


It’s a mute point now , if running at night I would be using my radar for sure !
Set to 1/4 - 1/8 mile and would keep you off the sand especially if your runnin
at or near cruise !

[Capt. Lou]

Well u may be correct but to my way of thinking 2 components on your radar system VRM & EBL help out for sure !
One is an electronic beAring line , the other range to target . This may help especially as you pointed out buoy 11 is in a critical location ! These buoys should also appear on radar . This vessel looks to have grounded on a SW course so both of those tip of hook buoys should have appeared on radar as to starboard side of vessel That alone should have been concerning for sure .
Radar would help if know what to look for and be able to interpret same . Running at night requires caution at best , only one thing worse night in the fog!