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FISHGERE
08-18-2018, 05:33 PM
party boat out of Atlantic highlands 51 people fishing total four keepers that's right four keepers on the whole boat. good thing we have regulations, that's the proof state says F U recreational anglers. Protest all you want wonder why guys don't attended meetings, waste of time.
Generations
08-18-2018, 06:09 PM
Do you know a round about area of where you guys were fishing?
captmark
08-18-2018, 06:22 PM
Hey Fish, it seems to be the kind of year that you have to follow the fish. A month ago we could only find Fluke in the Manasquan River and back bays none or few oceanside. Now you can put a good catch from south of the hook to south of Point Pleasant, in my opinion that doesn't count for much they are on the move with the bait. A month ago we would see boats like the Gambler run all the way up north and fish with the Belmar boats now its the opposite the Point and Belmar boats are just heading East a little bit. Maybe the boat you fished on didn't want to burn the fuel. just my 2 cents
FISHGERE
08-18-2018, 07:46 PM
South of sandy hook to maybe deal in the ocean
Joey Dah Fish
08-18-2018, 07:46 PM
I had 8 keepers today to 10.2#
FISHGERE
08-18-2018, 09:01 PM
Unfortunately Joe many us don’t have secret spots or numbers when one does it’s catching not fishing. Just feel sorry for that Captain he is good which sucks for business. Years ago you could get eight no far from the inlet.
Capt Joe
08-18-2018, 09:52 PM
party boat out of Atlantic highlands 51 people fishing total four keepers that's right four keepers on the whole boat. good thing we have regulations, that's the proof state says F U recreational anglers. Protest all you want wonder why guys don't attended meetings, waste of time.
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:;)
Capt Joe
08-18-2018, 09:53 PM
party boat out of Atlantic highlands 51 people fishing total four keepers that's right four keepers on the whole boat.
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:;)
yeeouch
SaltLife1980
08-18-2018, 10:52 PM
I had 9 keepers today to 11#5oz
shrimpman steve
08-18-2018, 10:57 PM
Unfortunately Joe many us don’t have secret spots or numbers when one does it’s catching not fishing. Just feel sorry for that Captain he is good which sucks for business. Years ago you could get eight no far from the inlet.
Call me if you need joeys numbers. They’re still in my plotter :D
Rocky
08-19-2018, 08:06 AM
Call me if you need joeys numbers. They’re still in my plotter :D
If I was you I would check under my car for bombs before I got in.:D
frugalfisherman
08-19-2018, 09:32 AM
If you were on a 1/2 day boat they don't have time to get to where the fish moved to. Stick to 3/4 day or better yet head south to Brielle.
FISHGERE
08-19-2018, 10:26 AM
i'm sure he has good numbers been fishing as a kid its bad, your better off in florida shrimpy .
NoLimit
08-19-2018, 11:23 AM
I stopped reporting on fluke because it is that bad finding legal ones. Having said that, Ambrose is just about drop and catch for juveniles with the wonder rig in the right places at the right time. And that has been for the past three weeks with legal fish becoming increasingly rare (30/1 yesterday)
Detour66
08-20-2018, 03:10 PM
Catching keepers seems to be tough unless you fish rocky bottom or wrecks out in the ocean. Most of the time this is tough fishing for party boats with anglers get snagged on the bottom all over the place. One guy at my marina caught over 11 nice sized keepers on his boat but he fished the rocky area's and lost over 30 bucktails. It seems like an expensive hobbie even if you make the bucktails yourself. That being said it's no surprise that a lot of anglers get skunked or just catch shorts all day. The regulations really need to be reviewed and changed so people can bring home at least a meal or 2 after spending the $$ they do trying to bring home a catch. Tight lines!
rumster
08-20-2018, 04:07 PM
I stopped reporting on fluke because it is that bad finding legal ones. Having said that, Ambrose is just about drop and catch for juveniles with the wonder rig in the right places at the right time. And that has been for the past three weeks with legal fish becoming increasingly rare (30/1 yesterday)
The wonder rig works wonders in the back bays, not so much in the ocean.... The reason being is that a killie is a forage fish that is not found in the ocean. It is only in the bays and rivers. Also, smaller fish have to eat very often to put on size, which is why the little guys commit suicide left and right, where as big fish eat bigger baits less often. Rarely will you see double digit fluke caught on just a killie... Before I get mugged there are always exceptions to the rule..... Better off using live snappers, a bucktail gulp rig or a larger profile strip baits this time of year in the ocean. But what do I know... I only have 3 N.J DD`s to 13.4lbs.
tuna john
08-20-2018, 08:41 PM
interesting this is from Capt Monty on Fluke
As for flounder, we must work through the “Sandy Slump.”
Because summer flounder spawn from late September to early November, hurricane Sandy (October 22, 2012) hit at the worst possible moment. What would normally be a nurturing sea where many fertilized eggs survive suddenly became a harsh environment indeed.
A 19 inch fluke (Fluke is what they call Summer Flounder from Jersey north) would have been spawned in 2012..
The good news is there are more smalls all the time. This important fishery shall soon rebound.
John D.
08-21-2018, 08:27 AM
There seems to be a few posters whom make it think it’s not even worth it to fish a boat out of AH. I’m sure the bay is kinda dead, as it usually is this time of year, and Ambrose hasn’t turned on, but can’t believe the ocean off the NY side and ocean down the Hook is dead.
Gerry Zagorski
08-21-2018, 09:08 AM
There seems to be a few posters whom make it think it’s not even worth it to fish a boat out of AH. I’m sure the bay is kinda dead, as it usually is this time of year, and Ambrose hasn’t turned on, but can’t believe the ocean off the NY side and ocean down the Hook is dead.
It's not ;)
Joey Dah Fish
08-21-2018, 02:30 PM
Let’s all be honest. Fluking is about several things. First is conditions, second is location and last but not least is the angler a hack. So I say always fish while you can. Check winds a tides and learn to hone your skills.
Chrisper4694
08-21-2018, 03:16 PM
Unfortunately Joe many us don’t have secret spots or numbers when one does it’s catching not fishing. Just feel sorry for that Captain he is good which sucks for business. Years ago you could get eight no far from the inlet.
he's fishing the wrong spots man, that's all i can say...we are limiting out every trip, we threw back 11 keepers over our limit sunday on the sandy hook reef...plenty of fish around
Gerry Zagorski
08-21-2018, 04:43 PM
he's fishing the wrong spots man, that's all i can say...we are limiting out every trip, we threw back 11 keepers over our limit sunday on the sandy hook reef...plenty of fish around
And you're not going to find any half day boats out of any port that is going to make that trip. It's hard because of the distance.. You'd have at least an hours run each way leaving you 2 hours of a 4 hour trip to actually fish??
Damned if you do and damned if you don't. And even if you do, there's no guarantee you'll have the conditions and the fish.
Welcome to the life of a party boat captain...
The struggle is real and it's not easy.
NoLimit
08-21-2018, 08:51 PM
The wonder rig works wonders in the back bays, not so much in the ocean.... The reason being is that a killie is a forage fish that is not found in the ocean. It is only in the bays and rivers. Also, smaller fish have to eat very often to put on size, which is why the little guys commit suicide left and right, where as big fish eat bigger baits less often. Rarely will you see double digit fluke caught on just a killie... Before I get mugged there are always exceptions to the rule..... Better off using live snappers, a bucktail gulp rig or a larger profile strip baits this time of year in the ocean. But what do I know... I only have 3 N.J DD`s to 13.4lbs. I got 5 and 3 of those on killies. (PS, when did gulp become native to the ocean?)
hammer4reel
08-21-2018, 09:02 PM
I got 5 and 3 of those on killies. (PS, when did gulp become native to the ocean?)
swimming mullet and a gulp 6" grub mimics the forage fish ocean fluke are eating a lot better than a 3" killie ever will.
just sayin
SaltLife1980
08-21-2018, 11:23 PM
You need to try some new places bc i had easy 9 keepers to 11# on Saturday.
NoLimit
08-22-2018, 05:20 PM
swimming mullet and a gulp 6" grub mimics the forage fish ocean fluke are eating a lot better than a 3" killie ever will.
just sayin
And guess what, 9 out of 10 times the keeper fluke ignores the jig and takes the little killie
hammer4reel
08-22-2018, 05:42 PM
And guess what, 9 out of 10 times the keeper fluke ignores the jig and takes the little killie
I catch 95% of my fluke on the bucktail, if your catching more on killies your not jigging .
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Irish Jigger
08-22-2018, 06:20 PM
I think the point is the half day boats don't have the time to run to great numbers on the SH reef, Shrewsbury rocks, or a nice rock pile off the red church. These captans sure have the knowledge of where the great fishing is but unfortunately the ride there and the ride back would leave you with a half hour of fishing. If your looking for more then a 4 hour trip that allows you to get into the deep rough stuff hit a 3/4 day boat, or one of the many great open boat sponsors that specialize in big fish, rough bottom fishing. Then again every year there's a 12 lb fish caught in 14 feet of water on the knoll so it's a crapshoot!!! My pops biggest is 13.6 caught at the tip of the hook at the 13 can on a live snapper while fishing on the Angler, so it's all about putting in your time, adjusting to the conditions, and having the right baits with you!!!
Fisherman120
08-22-2018, 08:02 PM
And guess what, 9 out of 10 times the keeper fluke ignores the jig and takes the little killie
Fish the killies in the ocean around rocks and let us know how you do. I already know the answer, as do others.
SaltLife1980
08-22-2018, 09:31 PM
And guess what, 9 out of 10 times the keeper fluke ignores the jig and takes the little killie
You r out of your mind.
NoLimit
08-22-2018, 09:37 PM
I catch 95% of my fluke on the bucktail, if your catching more on killies your not jigging .
. BWAHAHAHA - Now try a killie on the teaser
NoLimit
08-22-2018, 09:40 PM
Fish the killies in the ocean around rocks and let us know how you do. I already know the answer, as do others.
We do it all the time - Mud Buoy, Shrewsbury Rocks, SH Reef and it out fishes any other method more times than not.
NoLimit
08-22-2018, 09:49 PM
You r out of your mind. From you, that is a compliment. :D
SaltLife1980
08-22-2018, 10:10 PM
From you, that is a compliment. :D
Ok.... But still... Your killie theory is nuts. The jig is gonna produce more
Fisherman120
08-23-2018, 10:02 AM
We do it all the time - Mud Buoy, Shrewsbury Rocks, SH Reef and it out fishes any other method more times than not.
I've seen killies used more then enough times in the ocean to know how they do. Respectfully, if the killie is actually catching more which I doubt, you don't know how to jig whatsoever.
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